Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

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Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 20 15:30

Post by BreezeblockThu, 20th Apr 2017, 3:30pm

Hi folks,

Hope you all enjoyed / are enjoying the Easter break!

I've got a few plumbing jobs to do and I'm thinking of having a go at soldering my own copper joints. Has anyone got a suitable risk assessment I could have a gaze at for inspiration before I get going?

Many thanks all :hatoff:
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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 20 15:41

Post by omega1987Thu, 20th Apr 2017, 3:41pm

I haven't got a RA that I can lend you I'm afraid but one of the less obvious risks is fires caused by conduction;

Fire can be direct i.e. the flame of the blowlamp directly on a combustible material or conductive i.e. the copper pipe you're soldering is free of local combustible material but the pipe is in contact with a combustible material further on and can conduct heat to that point and cause a fire. sometimes this can be in a hard to access location so beware of this.

Controls can include suitable fire fighting equipment, heat proof backing (I used to use white asbestos) and prior investigation to see if the pipe is in contact with combustibles.

PS you should probably do a hot works permit also.

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 20 17:07

Post by xzimdaveThu, 20th Apr 2017, 5:07pm

Breezeblock wrote:
Thu, 20th Apr 2017, 3:30pm
Hi folks,

Hope you all enjoyed / are enjoying the Easter break!

I've got a few plumbing jobs to do and I'm thinking of having a go at soldering my own copper joints. Has anyone got a suitable risk assessment I could have a gaze at for inspiration before I get going?

Many thanks all :hatoff:
And watch out for smoke alarms!

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 21 07:52

Post by rigsbyFri, 21st Apr 2017, 7:52am

Most plumbers use push fittings in schools nowadays, i don't think they like taking the risk of soldiering. Their meant to hang around for a hour after the job to make sure nothing catches fire.

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 21 08:22

Post by btrousersFri, 21st Apr 2017, 8:22am

as above, or compression fittings.

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 21 09:52

Post by Care7akerFri, 21st Apr 2017, 9:52am

having a go! :icon_eek: ex plumber here... do test piece first...

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 21 16:54

Post by BreezeblockFri, 21st Apr 2017, 4:54pm

Care7aker wrote:
Fri, 21st Apr 2017, 9:52am
having a go! :icon_eek: ex plumber here... do test piece first...
I certainly will - probably more than one :icon_badgrin: :hatoff:

Thanks for the tips folks, plenty of food for thought....
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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 22 09:09

Post by mapperSat, 22nd Apr 2017, 9:09am

I've done some soldering at school. It was a very tight area and when i risk assessed i decided it was just far to risky to use the torch inside. I just didn't want to carry that burden.

I managed to do most of my bends and hot works outside, away from the building on a workmate. Had a co2 with me just incase. I then connected this into the run using a compression isolation valve.

This meant no hot works inside and the benefit of an isolation point on all sections that i'd worked on just incase my soldering had been poor.

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 24 09:01

Post by beagleMon, 24th Apr 2017, 9:01am

If you do not want to use a flame then you can use a heat gun. It takes a bit longer to get hot but it works really well.
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