Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

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Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 20 15:30

Post by Breezeblock » Thu, 20th Apr 2017, 3:30pm

Post by Breezeblock by Breezeblock Apr 2017 20 15:30

Hi folks,

Hope you all enjoyed / are enjoying the Easter break!

I've got a few plumbing jobs to do and I'm thinking of having a go at soldering my own copper joints. Has anyone got a suitable risk assessment I could have a gaze at for inspiration before I get going?

Many thanks all :hatoff:
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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 20 15:41

Post by omega1987 » Thu, 20th Apr 2017, 3:41pm

Post by omega1987 by omega1987 Apr 2017 20 15:41

I haven't got a RA that I can lend you I'm afraid but one of the less obvious risks is fires caused by conduction;

Fire can be direct i.e. the flame of the blowlamp directly on a combustible material or conductive i.e. the copper pipe you're soldering is free of local combustible material but the pipe is in contact with a combustible material further on and can conduct heat to that point and cause a fire. sometimes this can be in a hard to access location so beware of this.

Controls can include suitable fire fighting equipment, heat proof backing (I used to use white asbestos) and prior investigation to see if the pipe is in contact with combustibles.

PS you should probably do a hot works permit also.

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 20 17:07

Post by xzimdave » Thu, 20th Apr 2017, 5:07pm

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Breezeblock wrote:
Thu, 20th Apr 2017, 3:30pm
Hi folks,

Hope you all enjoyed / are enjoying the Easter break!

I've got a few plumbing jobs to do and I'm thinking of having a go at soldering my own copper joints. Has anyone got a suitable risk assessment I could have a gaze at for inspiration before I get going?

Many thanks all :hatoff:
And watch out for smoke alarms!

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 21 07:52

Post by rigsby » Fri, 21st Apr 2017, 7:52am

Post by rigsby by rigsby Apr 2017 21 07:52

Most plumbers use push fittings in schools nowadays, i don't think they like taking the risk of soldiering. Their meant to hang around for a hour after the job to make sure nothing catches fire.

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 21 08:22

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Post by btrousers by btrousers Apr 2017 21 08:22

as above, or compression fittings.

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 21 09:52

Post by Care7aker » Fri, 21st Apr 2017, 9:52am

Post by Care7aker by Care7aker Apr 2017 21 09:52

having a go! :icon_eek: ex plumber here... do test piece first...

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 21 16:54

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Post by Breezeblock by Breezeblock Apr 2017 21 16:54

Care7aker wrote:
Fri, 21st Apr 2017, 9:52am
having a go! :icon_eek: ex plumber here... do test piece first...
I certainly will - probably more than one :icon_badgrin: :hatoff:

Thanks for the tips folks, plenty of food for thought....
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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 22 09:09

Post by mapper » Sat, 22nd Apr 2017, 9:09am

Post by mapper by mapper Apr 2017 22 09:09

I've done some soldering at school. It was a very tight area and when i risk assessed i decided it was just far to risky to use the torch inside. I just didn't want to carry that burden.

I managed to do most of my bends and hot works outside, away from the building on a workmate. Had a co2 with me just incase. I then connected this into the run using a compression isolation valve.

This meant no hot works inside and the benefit of an isolation point on all sections that i'd worked on just incase my soldering had been poor.

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Re: Soldering copper fittings - risk assessment

Apr 2017 24 09:01

Post by beagle » Mon, 24th Apr 2017, 9:01am

Post by beagle by beagle Apr 2017 24 09:01

If you do not want to use a flame then you can use a heat gun. It takes a bit longer to get hot but it works really well.
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