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WEED KILLING

May 2018 15 11:02

Post by mrcrabst1ck » Tue, 15th May 2018, 11:02am

Post by mrcrabst1ck by mrcrabst1ck May 2018 15 11:02

I know it's an old topic, but can I have some advice on what type of weed killer to use, PPE, RA's and COSHH etc.

I've been asked to save money by doing it myself!

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Re: WEED KILLING

May 2018 15 11:40

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Post by ric70 by ric70 May 2018 15 11:40

You need a licence

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Re: WEED KILLING

May 2018 15 11:48

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As far as I can tell from websites, anything bought in a garden centre etc is legal if the instructions and usage is followed in the manufacturers directions. If used in a school its good practice to use it on a Friday afternoon so that it is dispersed when Monday morning come along. There is a law prohibiting using any pesticide/herbicide next to waterways without a CAR licence.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pesticides/resour ... tion_2.pdf (flow chart for example)

Professional weedkiller needs a licence to be used in public or private areas where the public have access.

That said, it may depend on the amount used or the area covered but I can't find any reference to this apart from the amounts used by Farmers. At the moment my school is happy that I do it with stuff like Rootkill which is Glyphosate based, but its only used on the abundance of Green Alkanet that is getting out of control. All the other weeds around the building edges are hoed or pulled.

Glyphosate is in a seemingly never ending state of flux in the EU, its been given another 5 yrs to be used with more research being done to ascertain its suggested link to cancer and traces of it in the food chain. But it looks like the chemical is on death row and is likely to be banned in the EU within the next 10 years. France has banned it anyway.

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Re: WEED KILLING

May 2018 15 12:04

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Post by UnderPaid by UnderPaid May 2018 15 12:04

As far as i'm aware if you are using any pesticide as part of your job you must have a licence, even weed killers sold for domestic use. Unless the law has changed since i did the course.

From Hse website

" Anyone who applies pesticides as part of their professional activities must (including those previously operating under grandfather rights) hold a recognised specified training certificate."
I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people.... I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort it self out.

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May 2018 15 12:11

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Post by duckmcbin by duckmcbin May 2018 15 12:11

https://www.capel.ac.uk/ I did my weed killer course here when I worked on council. Worth ringing them or email [Like.png]
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Re: WEED KILLING

May 2018 15 12:21

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Post by EBJ by EBJ May 2018 15 12:21

Buy a butane weed burner. [Wink.png]
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Re: WEED KILLING

May 2018 15 14:49

Post by mrcrabst1ck » Tue, 15th May 2018, 2:49pm

Post by mrcrabst1ck by mrcrabst1ck May 2018 15 14:49

Thanks everyone.

The weed wand seems the safest, no chemicals etc.

Do they work well, kill the weeds?

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Re: WEED KILLING

May 2018 15 16:19

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mrcrabst1ck wrote:
Tue, 15th May 2018, 2:49pm
Thanks everyone.

The weed wand seems the safest, no chemicals etc.

Do they work well, kill the weeds?
From my time working in horticulture, like 40 odd years ago, the weed wands/flame guns work by you initally casting your flame over the weeds briefly, this damages the foliage, then a second application a few days later burns the plant out as by then it's usually dried enough to be burnt away. Make sure you have a bucket of water/fire extinguisher to hand if you are doing the flaming in weather like we are currently enjoying!

IE: scorching hot and dry!
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Re: WEED KILLING

May 2018 15 17:31

Post by Jubbs » Tue, 15th May 2018, 5:31pm

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UnderPaid wrote:
Tue, 15th May 2018, 12:04pm
As far as i'm aware if you are using any pesticide as part of your job you must have a licence, even weed killers sold for domestic use. Unless the law has changed since i did the course.
From Hse website
" Anyone who applies pesticides as part of their professional activities must (including those previously operating under grandfather rights) hold a recognised specified training certificate."
I've tried again to find any better Gov website that states categorically whoever you are, using weed killer needs a certificate/licence. I can only go back to the website mentioned http://www.hse.gov.uk/pesticides/resour ... tion_2.pdf and to page 4 and 5 where flow charts are provided to work out if you need one. For me they both end in not needed, so it must be a bit of a grey area.

I will have to talk to HR and see what their take on it is.

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Re: WEED KILLING

May 2018 15 20:19

Post by EBJ » Tue, 15th May 2018, 8:19pm

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mrcrabst1ck wrote:
Tue, 15th May 2018, 2:49pm
Thanks everyone.

The weed wand seems the safest, no chemicals etc.

Do they work well, kill the weeds?
I always thought so and they are cheap enough to buy, Amazon do them complete with gas canisters for around £20, you will need to do an RA for this though and storage complete with sinage. [Like.png]
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