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Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2020, 12:33pm
by Gazza
we have concussive/ self closing/ push button/ what ever you want to call them taps in our toilets and washrooms, but they have become very stiff to push in some cases and in others they wont shut off properly without pulling the heads up manually. Ive taken apart the heads, lubricated insides but still no joy. does anyone have similar issues? any tips would be greatly appreciated as short of replacing them with hands free taps which cost a fortune i am at a loss

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2020, 1:47pm
by TheTusk
I've given up with those. As they fail I replace them with lever taps.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/h-c-turn-bat ... rome/52504

Replacing the plastic nuts with brass ones.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/bsp-female-f ... pack/66268

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2020, 2:32pm
by eggy
A couple of things that have worked in the past are:
Spray some 3in1,plus gas last resort WD40 up the push part while it is pressed down & twisting it. Then do the same with the tap pulled right up.
If possible try upping the pressure.
There are service kits but for the cost buy better quality ones

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2020, 3:42pm
by Taz
I've always taken them apart, removing everything that you can including the cartridge, spraying everything with WD40,wiping everything, then reassemble with another squirt of WD40.

Once back together, push them a few times to get the water flow through and make sure they're switching off.

Usually it works, but there has been an odd occasion when I've just had to replace the tap. Usually get them from screwfix.

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2020, 5:06pm
by JonOfham
I've got to replace a couple of ours, one has a thin o-ring I can't seem to get a replacement for so will just replace the head. Another has the same problem as you say, won't return unless pulled. Was going to strip it down and silicone grease everything, but the head is cracked too so that will also get replaced. I generally prefer quarter turn taps, but definitely in loos in a primary setting, I think non concussive are a necessary evil.
Just don't buy the cheapest you can find. BM wanted all the taps in the staff loos replaced with non concussive, so she bought one pair, the cheapest she could find on Amazon, I installed them. 6 months later, they don't shut off. When will she learn!

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2020, 5:25pm
by ric70
I just replace them when that happens
Just got one today from plumb center ( now called wolsey) their only £25 each so not going to break the bank

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2020, 5:37pm
by greenjack
You can remove the tops and clean then use a grease. That helps but to be honest unless you have good cleaners who properly clean then you will always have the same issues

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Tue, 15th Sep 2020, 6:53pm
by Jomell
We just replace them when this happens. Already put 10 sets down to replace on this years budget -Like.png-

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2020, 7:48am
by Gigantor
These are the ones i have just purchased to replace the same you are having issue.

£20 for a pair of taps is nice and cheap and seem like they are good quality

https://amazon.co.uk/dp/B07QG7FRLV?psc= ... ct_details

I've tried cleaning out, wd40, silicone spray, putting the tap head in a descaler solution over night - nothing worked then gave up and bought the above.

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2020, 8:46am
by Nail
Gigantor wrote: Wed, 16th Sep 2020, 7:48am These are the ones i have just purchased to replace the same you are having issue.

£20 for a pair of taps is nice and cheap and seem like they are good quality

https://amazon.co.uk/dp/B07QG7FRLV?psc= ... ct_details

I've tried cleaning out, wd40, silicone spray, putting the tap head in a descaler solution over night - nothing worked then gave up and bought the above.
Good find!

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2020, 9:14am
by motorr
we have just ad a toilet refit and the council put in AB (Anti-block) taps which are the other way round to yours . you press the tap down and when you release it the water comes out so it should stop flooding in the sinks.

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2020, 9:38am
by Drillbit
I have spent more time looking for new push tap cartridges than I'd care to admit.

I now just replace with a whole tap.

As THE TUSK mentioned - use a brass back nut, the plastic one are pure rubbish

I have also connected them with a flexi hose which is hand tightened so replacing the tap is quick and easy

https://www.screwfix.com/p/h-c-self-clo ... rome/72043#

https://www.toolstation.com/tap-backnut-spanner/p93000

https://www.screwfix.com/p/flexible-tap ... 00mm/3558g

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2020, 9:53am
by Nail
Drillbit wrote: Wed, 16th Sep 2020, 9:38am I have spent more time looking for new push tap cartridges than I'd care to admit.

I now just replace with a whole tap.

As THE TUSK mentioned - use a brass back nut, the plastic one are pure rubbish

I have also connected them with a flexi hose which is hand tightened so replacing the tap is quick and easy

https://www.screwfix.com/p/h-c-self-clo ... rome/72043#

https://www.toolstation.com/tap-backnut-spanner/p93000

https://www.screwfix.com/p/flexible-tap ... 00mm/3558g
Are the flexis WRAS approved? They seem very anti-flexi!

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2020, 9:57am
by PAUL.C
Drillbit wrote: Wed, 16th Sep 2020, 9:38am I have spent more time looking for new push tap cartridges than I'd care to admit.

I now just replace with a whole tap.

As THE TUSK mentioned - use a brass back nut, the plastic one are pure rubbish

I have also connected them with a flexi hose which is hand tightened so replacing the tap is quick and easy

https://www.screwfix.com/p/h-c-self-clo ... rome/72043#

https://www.toolstation.com/tap-backnut-spanner/p93000

https://www.screwfix.com/p/flexible-tap ... 00mm/3558g
For legionella regs the flexi hose has to be WRAS approved.

Re: Self closing taps HELP

Posted: Wed, 16th Sep 2020, 10:45am
by Drillbit
Nail wrote: Wed, 16th Sep 2020, 9:53am Are the flexis WRAS approved? They seem very anti-flexi!
The ones I bought are, I just checked the package to double check!